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Old 23-07-2013, 04:30 PM   #1
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Driving tests and stuff, lessons, first car etc.

Didn't quite know how to put the thread title, soo pretty much included everything i will probably talk about.

Now... I'm 30 years old (31 next month!) and i don't have a driving licence, shameful i know

I did 12 or so lessons back when i was around 18 or 19 and realised just doing my CBT and getting a little motorbike would get me on the road quicker, so i ended up jacking in doing my driving lessons, regretting it now.

I've started studying for the theory stuff, i found an old (2011) Driving test success! DVD in my drawer and it's sparked me into wanting to get my test passed, a long with all the other ideas of being able to get a better job or train to drive something bigger once i pass.

I want to get the theory out of the way so then i have a 2 year window for driving lessons and passing the practical.

The theory and hazard perception i can pretty much nail it every time now running the mock tests, but is this DVD (2011) too far out of date? I've ordered the 2013 version from Amazon so i'll see if i can ace that one every time.

On to the next thing, why is car insurance so damn much? I was pricing it up and even for a little Peugeot 106 1.1l R reg i'm looking at 700 a year fully comp, that's twice what the cars worth!!! Third party looks to be no better.
Any other cars i should consider for stupidly cheap insurance? i thought my age would help a load not being a teenager but i guess not.

Once all this is done i'd like to get into driving HGV's (LGV's?) the ones with 6 wheels and a massive trailer, the wages seem good and there are always vacancies, any advice on that would be greatly appreciated, like cost of lessons + tests and places that will take on without experience.

Sorry for the essay, and many thanks for any responses
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As for the HGV stuff, rekky is your man
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The theory side of it is common sense for the most part, i passed in 2011 and i think i was using a 07 book to revise theory, passed with full marks so you should be alright on that side of things.

Insurance wise ive just paid 900 to insure a 1.6 focus and im 20, but i do have 2 years no claims which plays a big part. Get a little 1.0 litre for a year or two then go for a bigger car. Even at your age a new driver is still seen as a bit risky i guess. Go for a bigger car in the future
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I passed my test in 13 lessons onr extra as i failed theory more of a hands on guy.

Theory wasn't hard its just you cant over think it and think the logical answer.

The practical should be easy if you got motorbike road experience.

Insurance is gonna be high no matter what. 20yr 0ncb $1400 for a 1.1 pug.

Also looking around might be cheaper to go slightly bigger engine. I was looking at quotes for starter drift car early bmw 328,mx5 etc and that is around 1400 roughly and they have a 1.6/8 engine so might be worth looking around

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You've got a full Motorbike license already?

No, i only did the CBT so i could ride a little 125cc for 2 years, nothing since then.
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when the mrs passed hers she done moch tests online, cost something like 7 quid a month.
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Stupid thing...
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You think insurance is expensive...wait till you fill her up each week and look up at the petrol pump. Then add the cost of service, tyres etc...etc...

I have no car and no intention on getting one. As a single man and wanting a nice place for myself and little one to live then that was the sacrifice. Do I miss driving? Hell yes! I loved it...But I only have to walk past a gas station and glance at the prices and I soon think otherwise.

I struggle to understand how some people can run a car now
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Originally Posted by totlxtc View Post
You think insurance is expensive...wait till you fill her up each week and look up at the petrol pump. Then add the cost of service, tyres etc...etc...

I have no car and no intention on getting one. As a single man and wanting a nice place for myself and little one to live then that was the sacrifice. Do I miss driving? Hell yes! I loved it...But I only have to walk past a gas station and glance at the prices and I soon think otherwise.

I struggle to understand how some people can run a car now

Could get a little 125 mate? I know you've had bikes in the past

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Depends on the distance you travel i guess. I go through around 150 of fuel a month at the moment but i feel like my time is worth that extra 250 or so a month i'm paying a month to run the car over having to spend many extra hours on public transport nevermind the inability to transport more than what i can put in a rucksack.

In the car i'm 10 minutes to work and back. To take the bus is a minimum of 40 minutes to get to work up to around 1hour while also being vunerable walking in a dodgy area to where i need to get the bus.

But that said, it is getting more and more expensive to jump through all the hoops required for new drivers and having to take the hit of the first few years of insurance premiums. Added to that the cost of upgrading your licence past D and it is a big investment to being ready to drive an LGV nevermind a HGV. It'll have been said a trillion times before but passing your test is just showing that you are at a level to control your vehicle and that you then start to learn how to drive and adapt to all the different variables of which the most lethal is other drivers who could do anything.
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You think insurance is expensive...wait till you fill her up each week and look up at the petrol pump. Then add the cost of service, tyres etc...etc...

I have no car and no intention on getting one. As a single man and wanting a nice place for myself and little one to live then that was the sacrifice. Do I miss driving? Hell yes! I loved it...But I only have to walk past a gas station and glance at the prices and I soon think otherwise.

I struggle to understand how some people can run a car now

40+ mile daily commute so a car is essential. Could get a sensible eco box but weres the fun in that
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I take my Mrs to work and also another guy who lives near me to work and on each home I give him and Mu mother in law lift home from work.

I love driving so it a hobby asuch as anything

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I must admit I use my car less, but it doesn't cost much to keep it going. It's all paid for, insurance and road tax is fairly cheap, and I only really go far in it on the weekends. I cycle back and fore to work now, saves a fair bit in cash.
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OK, bit of an update, passed my theory today (1st attempt) I got 48/50 on the questions bit, but only 55/75 for the hazard perception, and at the time i thought i did worse on the questions and felt confident on the hazard perception, but anyways, a pass is a pass, so now got 2 whole years to get the practical cracked.

Did my 5th and 6th driving lessons today, did a whole lot of dual carriageway driving, reversing downhill/flat/uphill and was talked to for about 10 minutes about different kinds of junctions which pretty much went in one ear and out the other.

Over-all i think i'm getting there.

Been looking at cars and insurance quotes, for around 800 a year i can drive a 1.8LX focus, 2002 plate i think. going for something with a lot smaller engine (1.1 say) only drops it by about 50, so think i'll go for more power for the money.
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Now that we as a family have gotten sick and tired of waiting to see if my dad can drive, we recently went for a mobility car and I am the nominated driver, while it is a shame in the given circumstances it is about time as we can spend time as a family, the car is a brand new Focus 1000cc turbo with 100 BHP, which I have to say is very impressive. it can pull up hills in fourth gear with ease and it is very quiet, and it costs 195 upfront and fuel costs, and that is it! we recently have been given the news that dad can drive for now, but his case is not closed yet.
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Now that we as a family have gotten sick and tired of waiting to see if my dad can drive, we recently went for a mobility car and I am the nominated driver, while it is a shame in the given circumstances it is about time as we can spend time as a family, the car is a brand new Focus 1000cc turbo with 100 BHP, which I have to say is very impressive. it can pull up hills in fourth gear with ease and it is very quiet, and it costs 195 upfront and fuel costs, and that is it! we recently have been given the news that dad can drive for now, but his case is not closed yet.

Could get a mobility car for my mum i spose, but don't wanna get caught using it just for me Think they say you can only use it for the benefit of the person claiming or something, so using it for roadtrips or taking myself to work would be a no-no i guess, the disabled badge would be nice though.

The job i plan on going for (where my brother works) i'll be getting a company car anyways, just 10p a mile for personal use. Want my own car as well for a year or 2 though just to get some no-claims bonus for if i ever leave that job.
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Well i passed my driving test today (1st time) and only got 3 minors, but i was so nervous throughout the whole thing, definitely felt like a fail to me but anyway i'll take it.

I've been looking at cars and booked a test drive on Friday in a Peugeot 307 1.6 SE (2003 plate) it only has 63,000 miles on it, 12 months MOT and a 3 month warranty. Price is advertised as 2,395.

For that price, is there any haggle room in there do ya reckon? I've seen one for 1,700 with about 80,000 miles on it for comparison.

I know the car is a bit thirsty, only getting around 35-40mpg but i can live with that.

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Go Japanese. If you can swallow the plastic interior feel, and slightly hungry fuel, it will very rarely go wrong.

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I forgot to mention, i only plan on keeping it for about a year just to build a years no claims bonus, can look for something better after that, comes with 12 months MOT and 3 months warranty, so hopefully it will see me through.
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2,000? Jeebus, you must be really young.

I've been quoted between 700-800 for the 307 1.6 fully comp, should fall to about 500 after the first year with no claims and then i can get something with a bit more oomph.
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2,000? Jeebus, you must be really young.

I've been quoted between 700-800 for the 307 1.6 fully comp, should fall to about 500 after the first year with no claims and then i can get something with a bit more oomph.

19, seen quotes which are worth double that for washing machine powered cars but went with Tesco this time
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Ouch mine was 1440 for a 10 month fast track. 1.1 pug 106.

Shanklin you should look at an older car I think
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